Zec 1:14 And the messenger who spoke with me said to me, “Proclaim, saying, ‘Thus said יהוה of hosts, “I have been jealous for Yerushalayim and for Tsiyon with great jealousy.
Parts 1 and 2
Shalom Mishpocha!
In this new Series, we will begin making the connections of YHWH’s Jealousy in conjunction with Israel’s idolatry through out the Scriptures.We also will be gathering the evidence and making the connections of idolatry as the number one Covenant Lawsuit and Breach of Covenant against the people of Israel.
This series is formulated around our current studies in the Yeshiva concerning Ancient Near East Covenant Understanding. I highly encourage you all to re-visit Rico’s Foundational Introduction in the Yeshiva , specifically “Part 2 Values System in the Ancient Near East and It’s Meaning” , for it is the premise for this series and will give a deeper understanding to this topic as well.
Shalom,
Daniel
Part 1
Part 2 “ISRAEL’S LOVERS”
Shalom! I realize this 2 part teaching was posted many months ago but I tried clicking on the pdf link just below and it seems to be broken. Can it be fixed or is there another way to access it? Thanks in advance!
Esther,
The pdf is working. I just tried it.
Shalom Everyone!
I pray all of you have had a blessed Shabbat and weekend. I wanted to update you all that have been following our series “The Jealousy of YHWH and The Covenant Lawsuit of Idolatry Against the Nation of Israel” that I am currently in the process this week of updating the powerpoint to reflect some of what we discussed in Part 2 as well as adding the slides for the upcoming third and final part to this particular series. YAH willing, I plan to have the audio for Part 3 and the updated Power-point uploaded by the end of this week.
I am so thankful and appreciative for all of your comments and time that you have taken as I only want to share my heart for Our KING as we all grow as HIS Servants.
Daniel
Thank you for your response Ryan,I have been aware of the Scriptures you mentioned. In a conversation about a year ago on this very topic 1 Co.7:10 and 15 (among others) were mentioned and ended up being linked to the Hittites Deut 7:1,3 alluding to cultural context of the day! (Speaking of marriages to non believers before consummation, as in betrothal stage)
Another thing that came up in that same conversation was the divorces at the time of Ezra, Nehemiah and Malachi, noting that they were likely being condemned by Malachi 2
Seems like the issue is to make sure we discern Torah instead of going with the age old Christianity teachings which disregard it and frankly are unable to teach it due to the many traditions of men.
We have been blessed with opportunities to search this topic due to the fact that some dear souls trust us with questions that press their hearts. I can think of at least 2 places we could show TLC by studying and researching Torah….
*One situation at hand is a recently divorced man wanting to remarry to a twice divorced woman….
*Another is a woman who having divorced her first husband on the grounds of his adultery, got married a second time to a single man and has a family now.
The quest to have an answer for what we believe…..continues….
You said: “Yeshua not only died for us, but he also gave up his position and authority and became a lowly servant for us. That is true love, that is true covenant fidelity.”
I could not agree with that more, I am reading a book called “Discovering the mind of a woman by Ken Nair” so far it is spot on the money and makes you the second witness with that statement.
Thank you for the resources you mentioned, hopefully we can get out hands on the next books on the topic at hand.
Blessings to you and your bride.
Shalom,
Sonia
Edyson,
You asked:
With regard to divorce and remarriage what does Torah teach exactly?
1“When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some uncleanness in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, 2 when she has departed from his house, and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3 if the latter husband detests her and writes her a certificate of divorce, puts it in her hand, and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her as his wife, 4 then her former husband who divorced her must not take her back to be his wife after she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before Adonai, and you shall not bring sin on the land which Adonai your God is giving you as an inheritance.
Now, is that fornication (as in a betrothed situation) or unfaithfulness as in whoring/adultery?
Trying to worship the gods of other nations or worship Yah in the manner that other nations worship their false gods is idolatry which is the spiritual equivilant to physical adultary. Yah HATES divorce and yet He divorces Israel. May I suggest that within that divorce, He always had the plan of remarriage in mind? Jeremiah 3 is where He issues the certificate of divorce and yet He still expresses His desire to remarry the bride. Romans 7 discusses just how Yeshua remarries his bride; by dying and becoming a new man. Thus we see that even in the case of adultery, Yah still has mercy and a desire for repentance and repair of the relationship. He gave the certificate of divorce because that’s what Israel desired, but He was willing to lay down His life (life of His son) in order to restore them. How much more should we as mere humans be willing to lay down our life for our wives. And often, it is harder to lay down are life of what we want than it would be to actually die. Yeshua not only died for us, but he also gave up his position and authority and became a lowly servant for us. That is true love, that is true covenant fidelity.
Mathew 19:9-11 How do we counsel those who come in to Torah after they have divorced and remarried, who have a family and a marriage of decades? or those who having divorced seek to be married?
We all come to Torah with sin in our life, many of them sins that can no longer be rectified. We are supposed to ask our brother whom we wronged for forgiveness prior to coming to the altar in repentance, so does that mean that I shouldn’t ask God for forgiveness for sins committed years ago until I pay an investigator to find people who have left my life years ago? I believe it is wrong to council somebody who is remarried to another and now coming to Torah to now become celibate with their new wife/husband (as it sounds you do as well). In Genesis 2:18, Elohim declares that it is not good that a man be alone and thus He draws woman out from his side with the intent that they should come back together in marriage. Throughout the Scriptures, Israel is dealt with on an individual family unit level as well as a national level. Some people think the bible is sexist, but within the context of ancient Near Eastern culture it was understood that the husband was the suzerain of the household and thus it would be improper to bypass him and address the wife. Overall, I believe that we were created to be married.
There was a great discussion on the matter you may want to check out – http://wisdomintorah.com/bbpress/topic/biblical-marraige#post-4704
Also, I would recommend checking out a book called “Garden of Peace” by Rabbi Shalom Arush. It is very Rabbinic, but it saved my marriage and could be an excellent tool for marriage counciling. Rico has it listed as a resource on this site and I know several other Messianic teachers that use it as well.
Also, there is a book that looks at divorce and remarriage from a 1st century perspective called Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context (http://www.amazon.com/Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Literary-Context/dp/0802849431/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1340696933&sr=8-11&keywords=divorce+and+remarriage). I haven’t read it yet but it’s on my Amazon wish list because it sounds like it is quite informative on the matter.
One of the biggest thing to remember when reading Yeshua’s words is the context of the day that he was in. The Pharisaical house of Hillel had decreed that it was lawful for a man to divorce his wife on pretty much any grounds; if she burnt the bread, if he saw a prettier woman, etc. Yeshua wasn’t dealing with battered women trying to escape abuse, it was men who lusted after other women and used any excuse to divorce in order to marry another who was more desirable in their eyes.
I hope that helps some.
Shalom,
Ryan
Lisa77 you asked:
someone who is baptized in any denomination/church at an age of their own consent (which if I remember correctly includes the confession piece, more or less), and participates in a communion ceremony in said church, and believes within themselves in the resurrection of the Christ, that they have come into Yeshua’s covenant? Or do we need to do all this over, but in the correct way, as you describe?
They take an oath with their mouth, so they are in covenant. Here’s a parallel that may help make more sense; a Hebrew man betroths a Hebrew woman. While they have not entered a marriage covenant yet, they have taken an oath to become married and are thus bound by it. If, while in the betrothal period, one party goes and sleeps with another man/woman, the reprecussions are as if they were in a full marriage covenant already. I personally do not believe that a communion ceremony is an acceptable substitute for partaking in Passover since communion is based off Mithraism. I personally felt drawn to rededicate myself to YHVH and Yeshua through a new oath, mikvah (baptism), and Passover.
And also, if an unbeliever is clearly not in covenant with Yah, then why do they receive the covenant curses (as the ANE treaties seem to convey that only those under the covenant receive the curses, but Revelation clearly stipulates that the covenant curses will come on ALL people of the earth, unless I’m mistaken)?
I can’t remember the chapter that Daniel read in part 2, but in it YHVH says that He will send Israel’s lovers into dispersion too for raping the bride. That is the duty of the Suzerain; He controls the international affairs of the nation. Remember, about 1/3 of the earth claims to be Christian and most of them are in idolatry. Also another 1/4-1/3 are Islam and they claim to be in covenant with the God of Abraham (even though they are really worshipping a moon god). Many others who are not Christian or Jewish are not simply athiest but anti-thiest; they attack the Elohim of Israel and come against Christians and Jews. Thus, per the covenant stipulations, it is Yah’s duty to defend His vassals regardless of how well they obey the covenant stipulations. That is why even in Israel’s idolatry, when they go after other lovers, Yah gives them into the hands of those lovers and then punishes those lovers for taking Israel captive.
I hope that makes sense,
Ryan
Covenanting only occurs where a relationship already exists. Prior to actually coming in covenant with the Elohim of Yisrael, a foreigner would join themselves to Yisrael and become a sojourner/stranger (Hebrew: Ger). This is akin to somebody coming to a congregation and learning about the Torah and Yeshua but not making any decision as to if they want to follow or not.
Once a sojourner chooses to come into covenant, he/she would swear an oath and when the time came, would partake in the Passover. Romans 10:9 speaks of this, “if you confess with your mouth Yeshua as Master, and believe in your heart that Elohim raised Him from the dead, you will be saved“. The phrase “confess with your mouth” is an oath of fealty to Yeshua who becomes our Passover offering which grants entry into the kingdom. We come in covenant with him and he is in covenant with the Father, thus through him we are welcomed into the kingdom.
The Passover is a threshold covenant. The purpose of a threshold covenant was to make an outsider part of the family. Thus Exodus 12 tells us that if a sojourner wishes to partake of the Passover, let all his males be circumcised (sign of the covenant) and then he may eat it, thus becoming the same as one who is born into the covenant.
I wrote an article about Passover a few months back that may help explain this more for my website:
http://www.rooted-in-torah.com/yeshua-our-pesach/
Let me know if this is clear enough or if I need to explain it a little more in depth.
Shalom,
Ryan
What you’ve stated makes sense. (thanks for responding so quickly)
So am I assuming correctly then, that someone who is baptized in any denomination/church at an age of their own consent (which if I remember correctly includes the confession piece, more or less), and participates in a communion ceremony in said church, and believes within themselves in the resurrection of the Christ, that they have come into Yeshua’s covenant? Or do we need to do all this over, but in the correct way, as you describe (and therefore, if we haven’t done it in the right way, then we are still strangers to the covenant?)
And also, if an unbeliever is clearly not in covenant with Yah, then why do they receive the covenant curses (as the ANE treaties seem to convey that only those under the covenant receive the curses, but Revelation clearly stipulates that the covenant curses will come on ALL people of the earth, unless I’m mistaken)?
Thanks for taking the time to explain.
hello! Love ALL the teachings here at WIT! I’ve learned so much from all of you and my understanding has deepened and faith & love for Yah grows more and more!
Question about the covenants: how do you know into which covenants you “belong” to? All of the covenants are forever, that I firmly believe, but the very nature of an ancient near eastern covenant assumes that the vassal has chosen to enter into that covenant in the first place, right?
Therefore, how does a person then enter in to each of the covenants? If an unbeliever, say an agnositc or atheist, never enters into the covenant, then why do the scriptures teach that the covenant curses will fall on them too?
Is there already a teaching on WIT that speaks to this topic of how we are entered in to each covenant? In my gut somehow I know that we are in these covenants, but I don’t understand HOW or WHY we are, so that if someone who doesn’t believe in Yah were to question me on this, I wouldn’t be able to explain to them how they are beholden to a covenant they don’t even know they entered into (or maybe the didn’t enter into it, but then why are they cursed?…. you see my confusion here 🙂 ).
If there isn’t a teaching on this topic yet, can there be one?? 😉
Shalom!
Shalom Lisa,
One important point to remember when we are dealing with our Covenant with YHWH is that from the very beginning it was HIS plan to come into covenant with man . This is done personally and nationally. As YAH willed to come into covenant with us, that in turn,and part of the plan also, extended HIS Kingdom to us. And whenever a kingdom is involved, stipulations/commandments within the covenant therefore are needed to keep order of the kingdom. In this series we have seen how man and Israel strayed from keeping the commandments of the Torah specifically those commandments that were broke due to willful,rebellious sin and were punishable by death and ultimately separation from Abba’s Kingdom. But as we discussed, this is where YHWH’s great mercy and plan of restoration comes thru Yeshua the Messiah. One additional note on Romans 10:9 is that by “confessing” in Yeshua, that means that the one “confessing” is proclaiming that they will walk in the same covenant as the one they are confessing in. In this case, we know Yeshua is in Covenant with the Father and therefore kept all of the Torah! So we now begin to make the connections hopefully that we really are part of all the Covenants with Abba because they all are intertwined.
By confessing in Yeshua we therefore see that the Covenant of Sinai and the Torah therefore applies to us. Then we see that the Covenant at Sinai is intertwined with YAH’s Covenant with Abraham to bless Abraham’s seed.
Remember in the Book of Deuteronomy Moshe reminds the people…
Deu 29:14 “And not with you alone I am making this covenant and this oath,
Deu 29:15 but with him who stands here with us today before יהוה our Elohim, as well as with him who is not here with us today.
I hope this helped a little.
Shalom,
Daniel
Just to add to your list of verses that prove that covenants are eternal and that subsequent covenants do not annul previous covenants, here are the words of Paul:
Galatians 3
15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,”who is Messiah. 17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by Elohim in Messiah, that it should make the promise of no effect. 18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
So if the Sinai covenant cannot annul the Abrahamic covenant(s), thus the so called “New Covenant” cannot annul the Sinai covenant. Simple!
I’ll add more comments later when I finish listening to the teaching after work, great work so far though!
“a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed” how is a man’s covenant confirmed in light of Torah?
We have been pondering the covenant of marriage for example. With regard to divorce and remarriage what does Torah teach exactly?
We understand the Word says Yahweh hates divorce yet He gave a certificate of divorce himself, Torah speaks of a man who has been divorced not to go back to his ex-wife if she has had another partner, it says for the sake of unfaithfulness that it is lawful to divorce….
Now, is that fornication (as in a betrothed situation) or unfaithfulness as in whoring/adultery?
Mathew 19:9-11 How do we counsel those who come in to Torah after they have divorced and remarried, who have a family and a marriage of decades? or those who having divorced seek to be married?
What does the Word say about remarrying a woman who divorced her husband because he was unfaithful? Is another (single) man allowed to marry her, and if so under which circumstances must they be to NOT be adulterers in the sight of Yahweh?
Some have gone as far as to counsel a couple, being married for over a decade and with a family, to abstain from the marriage bed because he (his first marriage) chose to wed a christian woman who had divorced her husband because he had been clearly(facts) unfaithful to her. Despite the lack of total understanding about what Torah has to say on the topic this couple decided to yield in humility and agreed to celibacy for the sake of praying, fasting and seeking Yahweh’s truth in the situation…..
This is by the way the second time we hear about a similar situation, although the first not Torah observant community (Plain Brethren of some sort) but along the same lines counseled the same thing to another couple.
Our hearts are broken over the lack of clear understanding on this topic and here we sit now with family asking these same questions again. We have many friends and the topic seems to resurface from time to time, very steadily. We respect your honesty toward Torah and your heart for teaching…..is your tzitzit available to us brothers?
Seeking to honor our King by walking in spirit and in truth. Feeling the responsibility our words carry in counsel.
Thank you all so much!
It makes me so sad to know the love of Yehovah to see His being rejected after all His faithfulness ,yet He keeps us and protects .we have grieved Him I want to completely turn to Him ,to love Him with all my heart . It is self that is our god. Your teaching is truth that`s why I am sad about how we have went our own way.Thank you.