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I recorded this teaching in Lake City, Florida during a Shabbat meeting. I spoke about this on one of the Torah Portions but I made a special teaching and here I teach about the power of the Pass-Over of Yah into the houses of Israel in Egypt. Also, I will share how YHVH will Make the NEW COVENANT in Jeremiah 31:32. I pray that this teaching will make an Impact your spiritual life as much is change my own life.
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Beautiful! This brings many of us to the understanding why the bride gets carried over the threshold, as I was! This ancient covenant still stands even as a tradition though we didn’t have the knowledge of why it was done then.
And, I was always the weird or particular one with which folks we are to invite, or bring into our home, except they be brethren! It is hard to explain, but that was from my spirit, as I have experienced the shalom being disturbed by folks who are not in covenant entering the home.. Thank you, Rico, for the confirmation.
Shalom!
Ester,I have some friends that I love but to be around them; they vex my spirit; and I don’t understand why.because these are in my study group. So maybe you have answered my question.
Hello there, I’m new to your site, you have very good teachings, but can you talk a bit slower, it’s hard to understand you. Thank you.
Thank you for your input on the above “Are all meas with others “Threshold Covenant” meals?” question.
I am in agreement that you should use wisdom in who you allow within your gates.
Though if once inside you find that you had been tricked and a hidden agenda to harm you and yours is found then this breaks your hold on protecting them and initiates a different kind of “hold”…probably one of the many you teach Rico ^__^ heehee.
Are all meas with others “Threshold Covenant” meals?
The Threshold Covenant teaching you gave while at Kol HaMashiach Messianic congregation recently was very enlightening. My Wife and I really enjoyed it.
Last night as I was preparing to go to work (the graveyard shift) I left her home watching the recording that we got from Kol with some close friends.
This morning I was confronted with my wife saying that we cannot have any unbelievers eat at our house.
This comment was directed towards the husband of a believing wife that we are friends with and also attends Kol HaMachiach. The Husband was one of those growing up who seen his parents jump from one faith-stream to the other….even Beni Hen at one point and then forsook all and his parents now are very worldly. He like many we come across became fed up with the hypocrisy of seeing so-called believers and does not want anything to do with anything that does not have christmas presents and chocolate easter bunnies involved. For the most part he is in it for the fun and not the observance of any religious rite. Unlike his wife who whole heartedly seeks YHWH’s ways He is a bit of a hindrance to her and picks on her making it difficult for her.
Come to think of it it is a lot like my wife’s parents in a way. They are Baptist and have in the past tried making and at times when we gather make it very difficult to comfortably observe the way we would alone with our family.
This aspect I know probably every one reading this can sympathize with. Over the years my wifes parents have stopped trying to get us to eat non-foods and respect our stance on not observing what we as followers of “The Way” know are pagan.
But…..
What about our friend and her husband? Is there no room for eating a meal together without it TRULY being a “Threshold Covenant “ meal? Are all meals with others not of your faith that are at a Table(alter) who are under a roof that has a threshold to cross considered a “Threshold Covenant” or can they just be meals?
I really understand the similitude of the Threshold, Table & meal, but I currently do not agree that it is a positive commandment forbidding one from having a “meal” with others who do not believe or believe the way we do. I do see it as a VERY good practice and one that could be considered a Proverb teaching.
If it is TORAH to not have a meal in our house or in another’s who do not have the Covenant we do, or even just a bit off on their beliefs than from the form of logic my wife is ranting about ^__^ we can no longer have anyone from her side of the family over to eat with us any more.
Once again I agree with the principal of your teaching, but is it TORAH to not have a meal with anyone who is not in Covenant as we believe? Is there no room for compassion to those who have questions but are not willing (yet ) to commit to said Covenant.
Shalom
Jason
Thinking more on this a bit more on the above topic of a Threshold Covenant Meal…
These questions are in order of priority for me while recognizing
1. Am I breaking TORAH by having a meal under any “threshold” with someone who may not be within the “same” covenant as I, especially if there is no standing agreement over any certain topic?
2. If that person may not have the same covenant but the spouse does and they are present should this make any diffrance?
3. Should I tell the spouse that is in covenant that may want to visit with the wife to not bring her husband in the event that they may stay and it become mealtime?
4. Can two or more parties eat at the same table for the sole purpose of sustenance in the scope of any gathering?
5. Am I thinking too much on this and in fact this is mostly just good cultural practice in relation to accidentally agreeing to a covenant that is foreign to me and/or my family.
Mainly I really want to know if I am breaking TORAH on any of the above. I am trying to find reference to a positive or negative command in the TORAH not just a proverb in relation to this.
I love and respect Rico, his teachings help understanding a lot.
Am I permitted to use any personnel judgment (TORAH based) on who is a threat that comes through my threshold and has a meal and who is not or does TORAH say no-one who is without our covenant be allowed through our door or us through theirs and have a meal?
Thank you Rico
Jason
Splitting hairs more….. LOL!
If I have someone over who is not particularly under same covenant and they eat at the couch and not at our table (alter)is that any different?
Once again I am not speaking of someone who is affronting me or my family’s covenant and I fell as though they may be “riding the fence” and may need a bit of time before I set them aside as the proverbial “swine at the dinner table”.
I see the Pesach meal as very exclusive to those who do not comply to the Covenant of the Elohim of Israel. But if this is to be applies to all meals then I would think we should not take this half-way and allow those visiting our congregations who may be tolerantly seeking somthing they do not fully understand into our after service oneg meals aether. nu?
Shalom
I do not have a problem with people eating at my house is just who do I invite and if I do then I need to protect them according to the Threshold customs. As long as you know that once they cross your threshold then you are responsible for the lives of the people than is cool. In regards to passover that is different because that is covenant only covenant people should partake of the meal. But inviting people to partake and break bread is something different.
shalom
RICO
I should preface this by saying I have not yet listened to this teaching.
You mentioned in this comment that Passover is only for covenant people (if I understood you correctly). And it seems that I recall that we cannot allow “strangers” to partake in the passover meal.
This leaves me with 2 questions. How do we define who is in covenant? What would this mean for my son, who refuses to be Torah ovservant but was circumcised?
Dear Marti, I wasn’t at the group with Hawkins but I have looked over Rico’s teachings regarding Galations, and here are a few of them http://wisdomintorah.com/the-hebrew-context-of-galatians/ and http://wisdomintorah.com/hebrew-context-of-galatians-3-part-series/ and this is the page for the Powerpoint; http://wisdomintorah.com/powerpoint-teachings/ scroll down to Hebrew-Context-of-Galatians.pdf . I found these by doing a search on Rico’s home page at http://wisdomintorah.com/ and typing “Galatians” in the search box. You may also find some gems at Gods Learning Channel by Rico. Shalom.
Rico, thanks for sharing the threshold cov. with the group at Hawkins, tx. Sorry I had to leave early and do appreciate the admission to your site. Can you tell me what site to go to the purchase the tape about the teachings on Galations. I am very interested as I have just returned from Finley Ok (after 4 years) and I have witnessed to several ministers in that area and Galations is one of their hot topic buttons for not keeping the law. So many preachers in areas of the south have no formal training or education in the Bible to begin with and added to that is the pressure to preach what the people want to hear! So, although my heart goes out to them, I had the privilege to share the Messianic view point with many of them and I want and need more teaching also. thanks for your assistance, marti
The Blood Covenant – Henry Clay Trumbull.pdf
The Covenant of Salt – Henry Clay Trumbull.pdf
The Threshold Covenant – Henry Clay Trumbull.pdf
I apologize, the above links don’t work. Please use these.
Shalom
Thank you so much for taking the time to post these for others to see.
Rico, Thank you for this teaching. I have two questions: If a man is not circumsized but has been baptized and does his best to keep Torah, is this man not in covenant? Husband has not yet been able………no money for it. He does love YHVH with all his heart and is willing. Can he still keep Pesach?
Shalom
Adrienne
Shalom! Thank Yah for your obedient and righteous husband.
I am not a teacher, but just sharing here what I have learned from others. According to my understanding nobody in exile cannot literally keep Pesach 100% according to Torah because keeping it requires a temple and the Levites etc and the lamb should not be sacrificed outside the gates of Jerusalem.
As far as I have understood, what we can do while in exile is to celebrate Pesach as a prophetic dress rehearsal (Col. 2:16-17) for the coming Marriage Supper of the Lamb in the Messianic Kingdom until we are able to keep Pesach there inside the dwelling place (land of Israel) 100% according to Torah with the temple and the Levites and such.
I would like to hear too Rico’s insights on this one because he is specialized in the temple service, covenants and such.
Blessings.
For some time I’ve known there was more to all the reference to the ‘east’, and after researching still knew something was missing. When you said when, “they went east”, turning their backs on YWHW, that was the missing element my spirit was looking for. Got it! Very interesting teaching on threshold. Thank you.
I attended the Kohl Ha Mashiach Messianic Congregation. I was in awe to learn so much in such a short time during your teaching about the Threshold Covenant.
You are a blessing to all of those that can listen to your teachings. May Yah Bless you always!
Shalom
I am so happy that you enjoyed the teaching and I pray that you will continue to learn more and more here at this blog.
thanks for being here
wow! thank you very much for sharing this
This is AmAZing !! Thank You, Wow YaH is so incredible isn’t He?!? I did only get to see part 2 as part one says it isn’t available and I just wanted you to know if you didn’t already. Thank You so very much.
Bless You
Dené